I would like to thank everyone with their experience's and recommendation's. I have had this rash for approx. 10 days. I went to the ER to discover my worst fear, Scabies. I work at a Hotel and think I contracted this nasty disease there. My husband does not have any signs of the pest as of yet. After reading what permethrin is and what it can cause, and how effective it is, I became very, very scared. Apparently permethrin "use" to work but because the mites are insects and their life cycle is so short they have built up a immune to this toxic they are calling a drug.
After reading ALL posts in this forum I decided to try Borax w/H2O2. I made my bath with very hot water and added a cup of each and soaked for approx. 20 minutes. In a matter of minutes my skin stopped itching. My infestation is severe. I have a rash across my abdomen, my chest my entire back, buttocks elbows, inside and out.. Upper arms, upper things and back of my knees. I actually sat in the tub crying because I actually felt relief for the first time in 2 weeks. This disease has taken its toll on me, depriving me of sleep as many of you already know how it keeps us awake at night.
Once my skin air dried My husband applied the clove oil ( we mixed it with mineral oil, and he mixed it way to strong as it burned to the point I needed to wash it off) He is at the store now to buy more mineral oil. Its been an hour since my bath and I am itch free, my rash has even lightened up in color to a pinkish, instead of RED.
He sprinkled the Borax on the carpet (we removed our dog and cat).. Letting it sit for an hour and then vacuum it thoroughly. We plan on bleaching everything we can once he returns home, washing all bed linens and clothing.
I plan on keeping an update to this forum on my battle of this nasty pest. I hope my post provides testimony to anyone who is skeptical of using non-prescribed treatments.
Thank you again to all who posted this remedies, and god bless.
California City, Ca
WOW at first I thought you guys were trying to see what weird crap you could get us dummys to put on ourselves. And then I got desperate at 3:00 in the morning and ran to pick up Borax, hyrd prox, and coconut oil. Oh and I got a strawberry/banana smoothie for my pain and suffering. I followed ya'lls instructions for the bath and afterward rubbed the coconut oil on. My skin looked immediately better, but I started feeling things crawl on my toes and then a few bites so I then squirted the clorox/water mixture all over my bed, around my bed on the side of the box springs and on the carpet and on me. I feel like I am at war with a micro organizm that I can not even see. I have never heard of coconut oil and what I bought was in the baking isle and looks like crisco but a taller narrower can. I thank you all for sharing your advice. I tried the apple cider vinegar first, it burned like a sun of a gun. And all they did was multiply. So, harmful or not, it seems to be working as I am not itching right now and honestly as much as I hate to hear the side affects of any medicine because then I feel like I have to make a choice of which problem will be the bigger headache, I AM SO FREAKING GLAD TO NOT BE ITCHING RIGHT NOW! I am going to snuggle up to my clorox bottle and put on my battle uniform of Pjs on and hopefully get a good night sleep thanks to all of yall!!!! So if anyone reads this and is hestitant, as God is my witness... It works!!!!! Maybe now I will get enough rest to fight this battle and win!!!
I want to start by saying I believe I got it from my dog. I have read numerous sites that say you cannot catch it from your pet but I do NOT believe it. My dog started losing its fur, and scratching herself bloody. After two trips to the vet, they said she had allergies. About two weeks after her itching began, so did mine. The vet prescribed various creams, pads, medicines, and special food to help with her "allergies. " As her itching got worse, so did mine so I began using Benedryl spray, cream and many other "itch-relief" medicines... None of which worked for very long. I was awakened every night about 2:00am with INTENSE itching. I was scratching so hard and so much, I was covered with bruises in between all of my bumps. One night I woke up with hives as well. I graduated to tea-tree oil and Noxema rubs, then after finding this site, onto Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide soaks. During this time, my dog was so miserable, she was going crazy with the itching so I took her to the NVASPCA. They diagnosed her with Mange! I went to the Dr. and got a dose of Permethrin Cream.
I did my dose of Perm a few days ago, and am now making a "scrub" on my wash rag with Lavendar soap and 1/4 Borax. Then I rinse off and squirt Hydrogen Peroxide on my wet body and dab dry. I carry Peroxide in a spray bottle and use when necessary. It does burn so I think it is working and I was at a point where burning was better than itching so I keep using it. At night, my hubby rubs me down with Noxzema, from top to bottom, with a deep massage to work it in real good. I feel I am on the road to recovery. I am sleeping through the night, and not itching as much during the day. My bumps are starting to get dry little "heads" on them. I have washed everything... HOT with Borax, and I vacuum the hell out of my carpet. I hope and pray this is it!
I had a rash on my arm for a while and was mis-diagnosed with eczema and allergies for a while before the doctor agreed it might be scabies. The itching since spread everywhere, and two doses of Permethrin haven't made much difference. So I decided to try some oils.
I slathered castor oil all over me, and before long little black specks started coming out of my pores. Scary at first, and yes it hurts slightly, as if lots of splinters are coming out. I also got tiny, clear, round grains of hard sandy stuff, along with amber versions of the same thing, tiny egg-shaped things and larger egg-shaped things. Very disturbing indeed. I know that some people will say that this is Morgellens, but at the moment I'm choosing to believe that these are various stages of mites and their droppings and eggs. Some other websites comfirm this, and one of my GPs said that they've heard of this happening with scabies.
So I figured that it's all much better out than in and I'm continuing to do it. I'm also using olive oil or coconut oil sometimes, they seems to work too, although I'm thinking that castor oil, as a thicker oil is probably smothering the little creatures more, and I think I'm seeing slightly more stuff come out when I use it.
After doing it a few times I am feeling some relief today, (although I'm by no means cured). This could be because there is less stuff inside irritating me, or simply because my skin is more moisturised, but I'm going to continue with this because it seems to be working.
I've also tried diatomaceous earth, which didn't work, sadly, even when I mixed it with grapeseed oil. I am drinking it though, 1 tsp in water each day, but I'm not sure that drinking it is effective for scabies, which isn't a stomach-related parasite.
And bleach baths also didn't seem to do much, although they did clear some burrows under my fingernail. I was pleasantly surprised by that! But don't seem to help other than that.
I also tried hydrogen peroxide and borax mixed with water. Also didn't work. Tea tree oil provides some temporary relief, and I bought some clove oil, but I'm reallly too scared to put it on my skin, even mixed heavily with oil.
I guess different things work for different people. Will carry on with the oils and report back.
I went to the beach with my family about 2 or 3 months ago. Immediatley when we left the beach my right arm, where my elbow is or fold is, it began to burn & itch really bad. I figured I had just suffered from being sunburned. For about 2 - 3 days my arm itched like crazy and I figured it was dry/sunburned skin, so I kept putting lotion or aloe gel on the site. Until I noticed the trail inbedded under my skin. I knew it was scabies & or mites. Immediateley I changed all my bedding, clothes and made sure that I washed my hands regularly. The itching would be so bad that it would wake me every night. I couldn't stand it anymore. I dont have medical insurance to get a prescription from a doctor, so I came across this site. What a relief, I had to use household / holistic remedies to treat this. The Citrus Listerine/Mouthwash really works. I'd apply it the area, let it completly dry, then I would apply straight Orange Oil (you can get it @ health food stores for about $2-$3). I did this twice a day, if not more when needed, at night and in the morning. The itching has completley stopped, the discoloration is fading...THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for this home remedy, THIS ONE WORKS !!!! :)
San Diego, Calif.
Saint Croix, Virgin Islands
Citrus mouthwash for scabies and Blk Pepper mites: Like you I have been battleing scabies for 8 long months ! Of couse I have used tons of over the counter remedys to no final avail,to be honest I sent in a remedy that in the end didn't work for me,so this time I'll just say to try it,you might like it. I heard of people using listerine for scabies and Black Pepper Mites (check about them ,they mimic scabies,you might be suffering from them instead ) I went to my brothers house to borrow listerine (next door)and all they had was Equate Citrus antiseptic mouthwash, I went home put some in a small wash basin in the tub stood in it and soaked myself from top of head to soles of feet, I let it air dry on me and it is very sticky, but low and behold black dots started popping out of my flesh!! I remembered working at a hotel where they used citrus spray for fleas and mites from peoples pets, I rinsed off before going to bed, should have left it on ,but this is the best my skin has felt in 8 months, I still have itches but very few. which I dab with the mouthwash and soak my feet each night,Wal-Mart has it in big bottles and it's cheap,don't have to tell you guys to keep up with borax in the carpets and wash and cover that mattress with plastic and clean it w/ diluted clorox,hope so much this helps someone out there.
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CLOVE OIL for scabies.
I've had scabies before, thought they were just mosquito bites at the time as I'd never heard of scabies. after a week of not going to doc or being diagnosed, the mites had a chance to multiply so it got pretty bad. finally went to doc, got permethrin cream and did that 2x, but lived in the hell of wrapping everything in plastic, not sleeping at night due to the itching, constantly laundry, etc. in between the permethrin cream dosages (a week apart, I believe), I did clove oil after doing tons of online research and learning of the australian study that said clove oil diluted kills even permethrin resistant scabies in 15 minutes. I wasn't taking any chances, so I used clove oil diluted with grapeseed oil, wasn't sure of dosage to use at the time, and still used permethrin. after 2nd treatment of permethrin (which made me feel dizzy, I later heard it's a neurotoxin and poisonous to cats but I wouldn't deter a human from using it! ) they were all gone. also was told that you couldn't get scabies from dogs, and I now know that is incorrect. Dogs can have mange, and you can get it - scabies. I am an animal caretaker.
Anyway, so that scabies was cured almost a year ago. then a few nights ago, I started itching. I knew what it was right away. it started in my pelvis, and that's where it started last time. no way in heck was I going to wait to go to doc, I knew what it was and wanted to kill those buggers ASAP. I took 100% clove oil and grapeseed oil and mixed them in a bowl- in the ratio of 3 Tablespoons grapeseed oil and one tablespoon clove oil, mixed and applied all over my body. I love the smell. I had to go to the Er for something else (really rough week ha! ) and the doc was like wow, it doesn't even look like scabies. We knew it was because of one burrow. I said, wow, maybe clove oil really did kill them all! (She also confirmed you CAN get it from dogs.) I've been applying the clove/grapseed oil mix twice a day and putting diatomaceous earth on the bed. I can't guarantee they are gone for sure, I guess I need more time to do that, but this scabies experience is nothing like last time. I am not up all night scratching, not scratching at all. I already have giant plastic bags at my house. if you want to cover your bed in plastic, get that stuff at the dollar store, save yourself some money. instead of going crazy washing everything I am just storing them in giant Ziplock bags for 3 days so the scabies dies.
Anyway you can get 100% clove oil for cheap on the internet, as well as grapeseed oil. I am always going to keep them in stock now because with all these dogs, it looks like I may be getting it a lot.
Took me forever to believe a natural oil would do the trick but after spending $125 on everything everyone else said, I finally found clove bud oil in rite aid. The employees didn't even know it was there, and I also grabbed orange oil too because it smells better than what I originally mixed up. So long story short, it does kill everything including the babies. You will feel relief almost instantly. There was a time I felt like giving up and I just started crying, mind you I'm a grown man. The next day I used the clove oil and I was back to life again. It takes about a week of doing what I'm about to tell you but seriously, stop reading so many posts and go find this stuff. First, in a store like Walmart, get sulphur soap, tea tree oil, clove oil, orange oil, a spray bottle, olive oil, and unscented lotion. The soap dries out skin which mites hate. Make a lotion by adding a small bottle of clove and orange oil to the lotion. Then make a spray using the olive, clove, and orange oils. The oils should be like 10% of whatever you're mixing it with to dilute it a bit. Then, take a very hot bath with drops of tea tree and orange oil in it. Soak as long as you can and get your head under water too. When you get out, air dry off and apply the lotion. This moment of relief will leave you feeling so much better already.. but it's not over. You will still itch up to a week but not merely as bad as it was. After 2 days you have your life back. BTW, clove oil stinks. That's why orange oil is key. Im on my third day of using these things and I can see them dead in my tub, because they get stuck in the oils and go down the drain so you don't have to worry. I also have extremely good vision. My itching is minimal and now I know it's working. I still have a Martin's 10% permethrin bottle from Amazon on its way as well as some diatomaceous earth (De). I plan to add the permethrin to the spray and lotion just for extra security and the DE I'll put on everything I touch and everywhere I've been including my car. Windex with ammonia also kills them on the surface so electronics etc can be treated with that. Small stuff like wallets and lighters can be frozen over night but I'd go 2 days straight to be sure. I never needed borax for my laundry, just high heat, but I'd still get it if I were you. So much for a long story short. I hope I helped someone because you're not alone.
Since becoming infected with scabies I have more little brown moles as well as occasional 'pimples' that are much larger with a harder lump. These lumps are more likely to remain in spite of treatments. Over time they wear down and eventually disappear. Some have remained even after months. My question is: are these bumps and moles (and I think maybe also clear 'warts') active nests even when treatments appear to have killes the mites?
Should they be removed and how is this possible? I have been using natural treatments for over four months. About a month ago I started using clove oil in the 1/3 ratio using coconut oil recommended here. The result was dramatic in terms of improvement. However, a persistent pattern has emerged - more and more parts of my body have stopped showing signs of scabies (as indicated by using an anti-paristic treatment onto the skin after a bath or shower and having mites, larvae, eggs etc rise to the surface of the skin - I believe always dead - as well as an improvement in the skin as lesions, blisters etc clear up). In these cleared up areas, there still remains an occasional persistent bump or an area where there are small brown moles. In addition, there are areas where lesions will not clear up. However certain areas will show no new signs of scabies (eg by no new lesions or no visble dead mites) for several days, only to find signs of the scabies then. This seemes to happen in areas where there are still raised lesions which feel like there is a track along them that won't break down over a long period of time. I now seem to be in a cycle where this occurs, but where the mites are gradually reducing and the return to no visible signs is more frequent. Perhaps, the treatment will eventually beat them.
My concern is that these lumps and moles may have active nests under them. If so, what to do about it? are these nests protected by some encasement or are they so deep that the topical treatments don't get to them? I've been told that the mites burrow into the lymphatic system and that certain treatments such as bleach incite the mites to burrow deeper. The reason I suspect this may be the case is because, I recently started using wild oregano oil (sometimes called wild marjoram) that have high concentrations of carvacol in it. I take this orally as well as putting it onto lesions and lumps topically. If applied to a lump or a lesion which feels like it has a trackline (i find that these are very hard to get rid of, especially on the back), then the oregano oil will seem to break down the lesion or pump a liitle bit. If you keep on rubbing the oil into the area after this happens then sometimes dead mites or eggs will emerge. When this happens there is more likely to be an outpouring of mites etc for a day or two afterwards. After the first few days of doing this, I found some kind of encased eggs (or nests?) be released - these things often were entangled in hairs - by continuing to rub them and pull them off, they tended to pull the hair out and seemed to be attached to the hair follicle. I have a great deal of trouble working out what all these things are when they are released from the skin - is it a good sign of improvement or a bad sign or is it indicative of something else? Are these eggs or nests or mites or faeces dead? are they dead after treatment while being under the lump or mole? I believe everything that leaves the skin after treatments is dead, but I can't work out if the stuff in the skin is dead or alive. The other thing I would note is that this stage of treatment is less likely to show signs of larvae leaving the skin which I found to be more common in earlier treatments with neem oil. What are other perople's experiences? should these moles and lumps be removed and, if so, how? or do they eventually just rise to the surface?
I find it interesting that oregano oil is not mentioned as being a natural treatment for scabies very much. It has anti-bacterial, anti-fungal and anti-parasitic properties to name just a few of its benefits. It would appear to kill all stages of the scabies' life cycle (although I still use clove oil daily as it kills the eggs).
There was an earlier posting about the difference between scabies in healthy and immuno-suppressed people - clearly, chronic infection is a symptom of immune problems which require a holistic approach to better health. I suspect that any chronic scabies condition needs some internal treatment (this is why western medicine uses ivermectin) - oregano oil taken internally appears to reach the scabies as evidenced by an initial worsening of itching and a flare up of the skin condition. The breaking down of persistent pumps would appear to follow this, along with the outpourings of dead things (and maybe live mites). I am only into the second week of using the oregano oil, so I can't determine success yet. Unfortunatley, clove oil alone didn't eliminate the problem. I've been on anti-parasitic internal remedies for a while, which have had a great improvement on digestive issues but not on the sacbies until I started taking the oregano oil. [One company's] health advice is tackle this parasite along with the elimination of internal parasites and toxins, along with liver detoxification and other measures to improve natural immunity. This can only be beneficial to well being, however the task seems very onerous. Sometimes I feel so exhausted and desiring of a break from the disciplined self/environmental regimes for treating chronic scabies. I hope I can endure and have success soon!
Brisbane, Qld., Australia
I just have to say Clove Oil is the Cure. I didnt know I had scabies until 4 months after I had gotten them. It started on my buttocks and then after a couple of months I started on my lower legs and calves, I thought it was chiggers... So I treated for that, but that wasn't it and after waking up at 3 and 4 in the morning with an itch that would not quit, I started looking online for what it could be. I used lye soap which I knew would cure poison ivy, that just dried the whelps but obiously did not cure the itch. I had some relief but not much. It was only when I noticed that now my back and arms were broek out in whelps and I felt creepy crawlys in my hair and on my face but could not see anything. I read and read and read all the stuff online, I tried everything and I mean everything. I tried the baths with salt, bleach, peroxide, borax, citrus mouthwash and added essential oils to my shampoo and body lotion etc. It was only until I used only the clove oil and suggested by other people on here, did I try that and only that after a hot bath with tea tree oil, after one day the itching was gone and after day 3, the redness has gone and the itching is gone. I will continue to use this for the next month just to be sure. I am so over cleaning and washing clothes and sheets and pillow cases, but at least I can sleep now and I think I am on the road to being cured. I sure hope I dont jinx myself by writing this prematurely. Good luck to everyone that is suffering from this beast of a creature. If I can offer any advice let me know.
Charleston, South Carolina
Folks, this is the answer to your prayers! CLOVE OIL. Over the course of a year I tried many of the suggestions on this site for ridding myself of scabies. The winner is:
3/4 tsp clove oil mixed with 4 TBS olive oil
(Be careful: I made a too-potent blend and burned my skin, and the healing process was maybe even worse than the scabies! But at the 6% ratio I note above, I had no problem.)
I followed the protocols suggested in many of the postings here for laundry, bedding, bathing and general disinfecting. MMS bath 3x/day, followed by application of the clove/olive oil mixture (I also used almond and coconut oils). Apply it ALL over your body, even if you only see signs of scabies on your arm, e.g. also, I used a Q-tip and applied the undiluted oil directly onto the "bump" (I didn't put the undiluted oil on my uninfested skin).
I had scabies for over a year and by the time I tuned in to clove oil, they ranged from my ankles up to my chin! (I don't suppose details of my long mind-deranging ordeal are necessary, just imagine.)
If you want more information re the protocols I used (and helpful info from others), you can find them on Amazon.com under "Dermisil for Scabies, " 3-star review by Jennifer. As you might guess, I am not recommending this product, but it's where I first started out and because scabies are sooo horrible, I gave as much info as I could during my ordeal in order to be helpful to others.
Eternal (and I mean this) thanks to lorisayshey from San Diego (under the heading Citrus Mouthwash, 8/18/11) and Cathrine from Perth, Western Australia (under the heading Clove Oil, 8/28/11) for posting the link to the Australian study of the effects of clove oil on permethrin-resistant scabies. The link is:
I just came across the article called "Clove oil can be treatment for itchy rash" which discusses a new study from the Queensland Institute of Medical Research, Australia. In the article the researches discuss how they discovered clove oil is effective in killing the scabies mite.
"Researchers tested the clove oil, nutmeg oil and ylang ylang oil on two different types of mites in the laboratory to see how many died from contact with the oils.
'We tested the oils on the mites, and found that clove oil killed all the mites within 15 minutes'."
"The importance of this research is that the scabies mite has become increasingly resistant to current treatments, especially in Northern Australia where scabies is common. Our research aims to identify naturally occurring compounds that can combat scabies and prevent resistance from occurring."
In my opinion it needs to be diluted with a carrier oil such as coconut oil before applied to the body (we tried to stay at the 6% strength that was mentioned in the article to being 100% effective in killing both normal scabies as well as scabies that have built up a resistance to permethrin, within 15 minutes).
Up until now we've been using borax & hydrogen peroxide baths twice a day, neem oil and tea tree in coconut oil and applied after the baths, DE (Diatomaceous earth) and borax on the carpets and DE on the car seats, plus washing everything in borax and hot water and changing clothes after each bath, clean clothes in bags, dirty clothes in separate bags until washed (all remedies learned thanks to this site! ).
I just read about the research on Clove Oil today so that has been added to our coconut oil as of now. Not sure when we will know when the scabies are finally gone, have been at it for 9 days now, will give it a couple of days with the Clove Oil just to be sure. Does anyone know if these remedies will actually sink into the skin and kill the female mite? Or will it just kill the babies as they hatch from the eggs and come to the surface?
I hope this helps!
USE CLOVE OIL!!!! Only thing effective in killing the permithrin-resistant scabies. Better than anything else I've used, 90% cured after 1 week. 1 part clove oil, 3 parts coconut oil or olive oil. Leave on skill 24 hrs a day. Scabies and larvae coming to surface of skin get a taste and die, scabies burrowing into skin get a taste and it kills them in about 15 mins. Keep everything not just clean, but sanitized - 1/2 ounce clove oil in 32 ounce spray bottle and spray EVERYTHING you can every morning every night. Way to get rid of them is reduce the numbers every day, keep things clean, don't give up, be more tenatious than they are! Don't forget to pray and thank the Lord that He put it on my heart to post this to help you all!
I have been cured of scabies for about 4 months now and feel obliged to enlighten every suffering human being of the secret. Two Words: CLOVE OIL. It can be purchased from any type of natural food store including whole foods, or online. When using it, you should probably dilute it in another type of oil, I used jojoba oil. So probably about 1 drop of clove per 2 teaspoon of jojoba. Mix it up. Rub this mixture all over the body and leave on for 15-30 minutes. Shower and make sure you have washed all of your linens and clothes beforehand with SPECIFIC DETERGENT. BORAX. ADD at least a cup and a half of borax to each load of laundry and make sure you have cleaned everything in your home or you will be reinfected. You may feel the scabies coming out or literally freaking out on your skin, like I did. They came out of tiny wholes and pretty much looked like they were suffering and eventually stopped moving after 20 minutes which is when I showered. It took me a few times to completely get rid of them, so don't feel hopeless if it doesnt work the first time. BUT IT WORKS! It took me approximately 4-5 days to completely rid them and I'm glad I did. Hopefully you guys will take my advice and no longer suffer. G-d Bless!
San Diego, Ca
animals cannot get scabies. the mites can only live on human skin, and human skin alone. the only way to get scabies in the first place is by prolonged skin to skin contact. for example how a mother hugs her child more than once a day. shaking of the hand or one simple hug will not contract them. the scabies can only live without a host for 3 days. simply vacate your house for three days and they will be gone(from your home anyway). make sure you take treatment durring then so not to reinfest your environment.
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
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