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Posted by Tom (Galloway, NJ) on 04/13/2009
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I bought some Borax in the form of a common laundry detergent several months ago. I finally tried it and all I can say is WOW. Its like washing your face with sandpaper. I was always told don't use anything abrasive on your rosecia and I thought I was gonna be in big trouble. After I scrubbed I patted my face dry and put some Aloe on it. The next morning not knowing what to expect I go to the mirror and I let out a few expletives of joy. My face was smooth and the crap was about 80% gone. The slight redness was there but everything else was about gone...Oh yeah, did I mention that that was the first night? Keep you posted.

Tom

Replied by Vivian
(Cedar Rapids, IA, USA)
05/15/2009
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WORKED TEMPORARILY

I tried scrubbing with Borax after reading your comment. I have to agree my skin is MUCH smoother than normal. After one time I did see a lessening of redness, but it seems to be getting redder as the day progresses. :( I did not remember to apply aloe, which may have been more effective. I was wondering if you are continuing to use Borax? If so, how often do you scrub with it? I am planning on using ACV as a toner also, although, not after scrubbing with Borax because the rosacea does sting a bit afterwards. It sounds like ACV will help with redness as well as enlarged pores. I would appreciate any feedback. My face just keeps getting redder and redder as I get older and I'm becoming very self-conscience about it.


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Posted by Wrwk (Kansas City, MO) on 01/01/2009

I'm considering trying the Borax internal remedy for my rosacaa - however I have high blood pressure that is proving a little difficult to control even with 2 meds. So, what effect might this remedy have on my blood pressure? Should I seek elsewhere for another remedy? Or, should I only apply the Borax combo to my skin and forget the internal routine?

Replied by Carol
(Bainbridge Island, Wa)
04/11/2011

Anybody consider colon cleansing?

Replied by Beauregard
(Plattsburg, Missouri)
08/15/2011

This has nothing to do with borax or Apple Cider Vinegar (which I have but have not used yet). I have been taking for about 4 months now ACNEED capsules for Rosacea (a Chinese Herbal blend product) from Merry Clinic (on-line). They claim it is a stomach thing. It has greatly helped with my red-ness & the bumps. It's pretty expensive but in my case it has helped therefore it is worth it. I am still having problems with the bumps located between my eyebrows. Any suggestions?

Replied by Christine
(Singapore)
08/19/2011

Hi I am an sufferer of rosacea for 7 years, my skin started from acne and worsened to redness and sensitivity due to incorrect use of products. Sad to say, my derma can't actually determine my case, eczema or rosacea or both and the possiblity of mites infection was not suggested to me either. She prescribed me with a rosacea gel, doxycycline 100mg, I am applying jojoba oil too. Been taking it for few days, not much effect. Recently, I found out that low stomach acid and mites infection on skin might be the reason. I am really tempted to try out consuming hcl or apple cider vinegar to see whether it aids my process however, I am afraid that I can take it with doxycycline medicine. Actually, I wished to try apple cider vinegar and a shampoo (but don't know which one is right) on my face. But of course, was afraid it will make me worst. Btw, I tried zz cream before ( supposed to be mites killer) not much effect. Can any suggest how should I go abt it and what is the trial period to determine whether the vinegar suits me?

Replied by Vimal
(Nadi, Fiji Islands)
09/07/2011
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Hi Christine, I had similar skin condition like you, Rosacea. Even am not sure whether it is eczema or rosacea however I am living with this problems since I was 11 yrs old, am 36 now. At the age of 24, a derma diagnosed me with rosacea. I was taking tetracycline plus metro gel, but metro gel is not effective at all for my rosacea. Tetracycline did improve my blushing but until I was taking tetrcycline as prescribed.

I am an Indian and I knew about Neem which can cure any skin related disease but I was really oblivious to neem to use as rosacea treatment. I have been taking neem capsule and applying neem oil on my face and just over couple of days I found the redness has minimized plus my complexion has improved a lot. Neem oil has very strong odour but that should not deter you from applying it on your face. There are neem creams as well soap which you can also use. Don't stop the treatment with neem if it clears your rosacea, continue with creams or soap or even shampoos which contain neem. You may discontinue with neem capsule but keep using external application. You can also do bit of research on Neem if you are in doubt but Neem really works.

Replied by Debbie
(Sterlington, Usa)
09/17/2011
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I have had rosacea for about 20 years. I can't afford Metrogel right now. Read online that someone had success with sulfur mixed with sunscreen. I mixed a teaspoon of sulfur with about a half cup of sunscreen and have been using it for 9 days (morning and night, after washing my face with borax), and the result is great- better than metrogel.

I had tried washing with borax, then dabbing with apple cider vinegar, but the redness continued and the sores just stayed scabby- wouldn't heal. My face had gotten really bad because I had been without Metrogel for about 3 months; looked like it would bleed. Now I am washing with borax, then applying the sulfur/sunscreen mixture and the redness is almost all gone, the sores healed, and I now only have about 3 little places that are slightly swollen, and they are getting better. My nose, which had been sore to the touch and scabby for so long, is completely well. The sulfur is a little drying, but the sunscreen helps to counteract that. My sulfur is some I got from my mom. My dad worked in a lab and brought home about 5 lbs of it thirty-five years ago, and it has been under the sink in a glass jar ever since, but is obviously still potent.

I have also discontinued washing my hair with shampoo and conditioner, and am using baking soda/borax water to wash, and citric acid water for rinsing. Also am drinking 1/8tsp borax and 1/8tsp sulfur in a liter of water everyday. Just hope this helps someone else. My skin has never been this soft, and it looks better now than it has for a long time. I am 50 years old.

Replied by Debbie
(Sterlington, Usa)
09/27/2011

Update on my earlier post. My skin is completely clear of sores/pimples/pustules. Only slight slight vague redness on cheeks. I continue to scrub twice a day with borax, then apply the sulfur/sunscreen mixture. I believe this is the ticket for my particular case. I have noticed my usually normal blood pressure has climbed a little, so I have quit taking borax internally, but am still taking a little sulfur in water or in a spoon of peanut butter or honey. Love the way my hair is looking since quit using shampoo and went to borax/baking soda to wash and citric acid rinse. My nails are longer and stronger too- maybe from the sulfur. If anyone else tries this, let us know how it works for you.

Replied by Stonefieldsian
(Auckland, New Zealand)
09/28/2011

What sort of sulphur are you taking internally?


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Posted by John (London, UK) on 12/09/2008

Hi i am considering using borax for rosacea but would be interested to know if sodium bicarbonate works as well? And is it better to apply it topically to the skin as well as take it internally. John


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Posted by Pamela (City Withheld, Washington) on 09/08/2007
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I have suffered with Fibromyalgia/Rosacea and TMJ for over 10 years... My first symptoms appeared shortly after I began taking Paxil. After about 8 months when I found the Paxil side effects intolerable, my doctor switched me to Prozac. Well...within 2 years, I had gained 75 pound, couldn't get my temperature to a normal 98.6 (it wouldn't budge above 96.6), broke out with a fierce case of Rosacea (skin blistering & pealing in layers off my cheeks), was chronically fatigued and suffered from TMJ symptoms.

After reading the FLUORIDE information on EarthClinc and researching the chemical formulas of the many antidepressants that I had taken over the last 10 years, I had an epiphany...My problem was FLUORIDE!!! Incidentally, the' symptoms of FLUORIDE TOXICITY are the same as Fibromyalgia so it wasn't surprising to learn that FLUORIDE is the primary ingredient in MANY widely prescribed antidepressants, including PAXIL and PROZAC!!!

Without delay, I began adding 1/8 tsp of BORAX and 1/8 tsp of NATURAL (UN-bleached) SEA SALT to a liter of
DE-CLORINATED water. This regimine just happens to both neutralize the FLUORIDE and KILL the nasty mites that cause Rosacea.

I began drinking 1 liter per day for 5 days. On the 2 off days, I simply drank purified, bottled spring water.

The results were nothing short of MIRACULOUS, within two weeks my face cleared, the redness faded and best of all, my temperature normalized TO 98.6 and my energy level began to steadily increased. (Do expect the break out to get worse before it gets better as the mites die off.)

In just one month, without dieting or changing my daily routine (other than adding BORAX & SEA SALT to my drinking water), I dropped 4 pounds and I continue to drop weight at about a pound a week. I attribute this to my increased body temperature and elevated metabolism.

ALSO...when I eliminated the FLUORIDE in my toothpaste, my gums stopped swelling and bleeding and all PREVIOUS phantom tooth/jaw pain simply disappeared.

Thank you, EarthClinc and Ted...The information you shared has truely been a blessing in my life...I wholeheartedly encourage anyone that is suffering with FIBROMYALGIA, CHRONIC FATIGUE, TMJ or ROSACEA to try this simple remedy as I have had only POSITIVE results and absolutely NO SIDE EFFECTS!!!

Incidently, this BORAX & SEA SALT water is extremely ALKALINE with a pH between 8 - 9 pH.

EC: We must also express our extreme gratitude to Jason Uttley for the chronic fluoride poisoning link in his article, The Cause of Fibromyalgia.

Replied by Kate
(Pasadena, CA)
05/26/2008

Are you talking about borax as in "20 Mule Team Borax" use for cleaning and other household purposes???

EC: Click here for more information about borax.

Replied by Robert
(Thalang, Phuket, Thailand)
10/09/2008

Could someone please let me know how I can purchase Borax in Thailand? Or where I can find it? I have tried remedies from dermatologists for what I have just discovered that I have rosacea. Thank you.

EC: Already answered on the site by Ted, a Bangkok resident: https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/borax_questions.html#Question_100

Replied by Angie
(Windsor, Canada)
12/30/2008

i am taking levothyroxin for an underactive thyroid. trying to get rid of rosacea...what interaction will borax have on this medication. should i take borax with this medication?

Replied by Robin
(Auburn, Washington)
03/10/2009

Pamela, I think you may have hit the nail on the head, regarding the "cause" of rosacea. You mentioned you developed it after taking Paxil. I find it interesting that many people develop this problem after they have upset the balance of good vs bad bacteria in their guts by taking prescription drugs. I believe rosacea could be due to a candida overload in the system, and since you live in WA state I can tell you that you don't get enough Vit D from sunshine. I live in WA, and Dr. Wright of the Tahoma Clinic (Kent) told me that we all need a minimum of 1,000 IUs of Vit D daily in the NW. I have read research that shows a clear link to vitamin D levels being low and an elevation in rosacea cases. Vit. D is a critical hormone, that also affects the thyroid; many here in WA report losing weight and lessening of head hair loss after proper supplementation....it is a powerful hormone necessary for hormone balance in women. Hope this helps. And, I would apply apple cidar vinegar to the face 2x per day, with a Vit E or Jojoba oil lightly applied before bed, to counter possible dryness. Hope this helps!

Replied by Rease
(Brookville, Md)
10/10/2009

Robin, I was floored after reading your feedback. I have had a horrible case of Rosacea for 20 years now. Just a year ago, I was diagnosed with hypothyroid and have been on synthroid. (Can't begin to tell you how much better I feel.) But the rosacea is AWFUL. Then, just a couple months ago (in the THICK OF SUMMER) I was told I'm *severely* deficient in Vitamin D. So, after reading your post, I'm now wondering if my rosacea is a result of my hormone imbalances and Vitamin D deficiency.

I've read a lot of posts in this forum about treaments for rosacea, like taking 1 tablespoon of ACV 3xs a day diluted in a cup of either juice or water. Or, by taking borax in water. Has anyone done BOTH? Is it dangerous to do both? I'm so desperate to try something -- just not sure what to do first!

Am trying the ACV topically tonight, along w/ the Aloe. Hoping for some improvement soon.

Replied by Tricia
(Ireland)
10/10/2009
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Might be worthwhle at some stage to do a survey on what we think causes rosacea. I would be vitamin d deficient purely on the basis of where we live. You couldn't get enough sun here if you tried. I also have hormone imbalances and have taken antibiotics akin to paxil.

I have taken acv using the water I prepared with the boraxed water and had no adverse reactions. Ted has done a list of the combination that are ok and what not to mix somewhere on this site. Search Ted's Combination List.

Replied by Redcairo
(Miami, Ok)
11/20/2011

Please be sure you get Vitamin D3 (natural) not D2 (synthetic). D2 has a pretty low max dosage and research has made clear it's the D3 that is useful. Fortunately it is really pretty cheap. Research shows 10,000 mg per day semi-long term in adults did no damage (and that disease-states, particularly cancer, are hugely correlated with low D3 status in the body), and some docs I have known have prescribed way more than that (like 5x that) for people in the flux of a disease. PJ


Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide

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Posted by Anonymous (US) on 05/06/2013
★☆☆☆☆

After reading the reviews for Ted's Remedy for rosacea, I was extremely hopeful. I followed everything perfectly for several months, but now I am strongly considering giving up on the treatment. I have noticed no changes. It continues to follow the cyclical pattern of ups and downs. I have, however, noticed my rosacea spreading. Not "moving" or transferring like he said it might do, but spreading. As in, now it is in 2 places instead of one. I don't blame it on the treatment, I blame it on the treatment not working and the disease is simply progressing. Needless to say, this remedy did not work for me and I have no idea why. With such great reviews, I really expected great things here. I have tried absolutely everything for this disease and nothings has been able to help me in the slightest. I am 20 years old and this disease has ruined my life. Since this failed I just don't know what to do anymore...

Replied by Claire
(Asheville, Nc)
05/06/2013

Hi! Please tell us exactly what protocol you followed so we can know what you tried.

Replied by Joy
(Battleground, Wash)
05/06/2013

I recently googled rosacea and there was a current study suggesting that some rosacea could be caused by a mite under the skin that when it poops caused the topical part of the reaction and then the treatments people try can deal with the reaction to the poop symtoms but not get rid of the mites.... Don't lose your HOPE.... LOVE , JOY


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Posted by Marjorie (Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada) on 04/07/2013

Hi - I am hoping for some feedback from Ted from Bangkok.

I have been suffering from rosacea for a year now - it is the skin thickening type however. Each morning my pores are enlarged on my nose and forehead, and my nose is gradually growing thicker and wider. After much research, I feel certain it is caused by Demodex mites. My immune system is down, also.

I have been applying the borax and H2O2 solution, plus taking 1/8 tsp a day in water for the past 10 days, as advised by Ted. I have also put permethirn on my face for 5 nights in a row. I have also been taking orange peel oil in water for the past two days.

My skin seems worse than ever at this stage. The inflammation is great, and I have smll papules breaking out around my eyes. Also, my stomach broke out in a great rash.

Are these all symptoms of die-off? If you could answer please, Ted. I feel desperately unhappy at this stage. I don't even want to leave the house because my face looks so hideous.

Thank-you for the hope you have inspired.

Replied by Christine
(Grimsby, Ontario)
10/18/2015

I'd like to know what happened in the end to your skin. I think you were trying too many things at once. I would stick to teds remedy. It worked for me. I was clear for five years. It's creeping back again and I am starting the regime again.


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Posted by Stephanie (Somewhere, Texas) on 11/26/2011
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I have been using the topical solution (3% H202 saturated with 20 Mule Team Borax) for a few weeks putting it on my face after cleansing and leaving on a few minutes before rinsing. I could not believe the junk that came out of my pores. I also plucked a hair out of my face and looked at it under a microscope. I could see the mites feasting on the oils at the base of my hair (yuck! ). My facial redness has been reduced by about 50%. Prepare for things to get worse before they get better with this remedy if you are allergic or sensitive to the mites and their waste. I perservered and my face is getting better and better. Use a little hydrocortisone if you have an allergic reaction to the mite funk. I think it may take a few months for my face to heal. I also have been trying to eat a ton of fruits and vegetables and an all around anti-inflammatory diet but Ted's cure has helped so much. Thanks Ted. I will post an update in a few months.


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Posted by Kathy (Wellington, Ohio) on 09/23/2011
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After searching the Internet for the cause of my adult acne (should be "senior acne" as I'm 64! ), I stumbled upon the demodex mite theory. Realizing that while my acne didn't fit the criteria exactly, but realizing that the hair follicle issues I was having along my hairline at my temples fit - I thought, what do I have to lose? Mixing up 20 Mule Team Borax (really??) with HP and distilled water, I wondered if I was going to end up with facial burns!

I've been diagnosed with mild rosacea & poklioderma of my neck. The rosacea didn't fit the exact criteria - though I do have enlarged pores and a lot of comeodones and accidentally using any antibacterial soap on my neck proved excruciating, ending up in inflamed poklioderma (next search - do demodex mites cause poklioderma?). Anyway, after one night of use- Incredible improvement! Pimples along hair follicles are GONE - pores are smaller - less sebum (a major issue with me, which I've tried vitamin B5 at extremely high doses along with an Rx for aldactone, etc. - no results) - and skin just majorally improved! I used it again tonight before going to bed and plan to continue to do so. I'll update, but right now, I'm high on this miracle (for me, at least! ). I used 5 T. of 20 Mule Team Borax (that's right, from the laundry detergent aisle!), 1/4 c. Distilled water and a little less than 1/4 c. of 3% hydrogen peroxide. The borax would not dissolve so I'm sure I made too big a batch, but I used my Ninja blender and got it down to a good consistency - still grainy, but not too bad. I wrapped an old beach towel around my bed pillow to protect it and that worked well.

Hope this isn't too long a post, but I am thinking miracle here and wondering why more attention isn't being paid to demodex mites. I was seriously considering having the hair along my temples removed electronically (sp?) just to eliminate the small yet painful pimples I kept getting. It took me a long time to make the connection, but I am very hopeful at this very early stage of the game.


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Posted by Just Me (Vancouver, B.c Canada) on 04/04/2011
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I am so glad I found this site!! .. After suffering with rosacea or rosacea like sysmptoms for the last couple of years. I tried a borax with ho2o mix and in just one night, I look the best I have in a long time! it's not "cured" but much better as it seemed to be only getting worst, I'll just say it's half gone!!! But still... Only one night! I will post back again as I go along with this... IT'S WORKING!!!!! THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH!!!!


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Posted by Pat (Athens, Al, Usa) on 05/20/2010

Re: Borax & Peroxide Saturation

I have rosacea and have been reading Teds's remedies and don't quite understand what is meant by the borax and peroxide "saturation" since this is applied - would one mix this into a paste type concoction to apply or is it a runny liquid applied with a cotton ball or somewhere in between? I really NEED to do something and everything else I've tried here on Earth Clinic has worked like a miracle so far. The paste type makes more sense as it would be easier to apply than some runny mess but I don't know what is meant or how to apply it. Can someone - ANYONE, please clarify this for me. Rosacea is one of those nasty nanoinsect thinys and I need to irradiate it asap. Thanks in advance for the clarification.

Replied by Elizabeth
(Nashville, Tn)
05/21/2010

Yes, the wording can be a little confusing. The way I took Ted's directions was to mix equal amount of borax and h202 and let the borax dissolve. You will then have a liquid that you can apply to your face and let dry. Your face will get dry so I suggest after 20 minutes or so to apply a face lotion for sensitive skin. I've used this and it does work to an extent. Good luck and God Bless!

Replied by Tricia
(Ireland)
05/26/2010
84 posts

My understanding of a staurated solution is that there should be just enough HP to make the borax disappear. Try putting 1/4 tsp borax to a tsp hp and swish around. If the borax is still obvious add 1/4 - 1/2 tsp hp until you can't see the borax. If this doesn,t cover the area you want to use it on add more of each. After a while you won't even need to measure it. I used it at night only so that it wasn't noticable at work and washed it off in the shower in the morning. At the end of my treatment my skin wasn't any drier. Use an old pillowcase as it will discolor them.

Replied by Dreamerbob
(San Diego, California, Us)
09/07/2012

A saturated solution is a solution that is fully saturated, like water and Borax, so that the water can absorb no more Borax. I make it by putting borax into a mixing cup and adding hot water, and stirring. Keep stirring occasionally until cooled off. Let sit until the liquid is pretty clear. There will be some Borax that is not absorbed into the water and that means that the water is fully saturated with Borax. If there is no residue, add some more Borax and keep stirring. Drain off the clear liquid into a squeeze bottle which makes application easier. You can reuse the sediment left over to make a new batch.

We use it on scalp for dandruff, face and arms for skin problems and feet and heels for smooth skin and to prevent cracking, applying it before showering, letting on for a few minutes, then showering. We also apply on problem skin during the day and just let it dry.

These skin problems, we have finally realized, are primarily caused by fungus, maybe some other critters as well. The Borax is very effective. Add some HP if desired.


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Posted by Ger (Dublin, Dublin, Ireland) on 04/28/2010
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hi all,

following your advice on trying to clear a red face i have been useing borax mixed with hydrogen peroxide. i think its working, after a week my face is still red but it does seem calmer but only a bit. i will keep going untill i run out of borax but i guess even a slight improvement is better than nothing.any other suggestions greatly welcome for couperose skin cures. thanks


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Posted by John (Toledo, Ohio) on 03/23/2010
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I've had rosacea for at least the last 15 years - I'm 59 years old. I have used Cleocin-T, Sulfacetamide ointment, and Metrogel at various times but didn't get any consistent relief from the pustules that would regularly break out on my nose. At times these red pustules were bad enough to make me self-conscious. It always bothered me that they would come and go, as I could never figure out what the triggers were?? So I looked at this site and began using the saturated borax solution mixed with 1% hydrogen peroxide solution and approx 5% tea tree oil. I make up an over saturated borax solution in a separate dropper bottle. I shake this solution each time I decant from it in an effort to get as much borax into solution as possible. I decant the borax into a separate mixture bottle, then I decant from another dropper bottle filled with 3% hydrogen peroxide roughly half the amount that I decanted from the borax solution bottle. I then add enough tea tree oil with a dropper to make up roughly 5% of the whole amount. Think 12 drops borax solution, 6 drops 3% hydrogen peroxide, and 1 drop tea tree oil (or any multiple of that). This will yield a somewhat diluted borax solution and you may want to add back a bit of powdered borax to resaturate the whole solution - I've used the solution just as I've described and also after adding back a bit of borax, but if you do add a bit of borax be prepared to have the solution crystalize on your face - you will have to brush off the crystals as they will be somewhat visible. By adding 1/2 the amount of 3% hydrogen peroxide as borax solution, you effectively turn it into a 1% hydrogen peroxide, but I'm not sure that being exact makes that much of a difference, just as long as you're close. I've played around with a little more hydrogen peroxide and a little extra tea tree oil. In any event, I use a q-tip and daub this solution on my nose area including inside my nostrils and on my eyebrows twice daily. I also take 1/2 tsp of baking soda in water every other day to get my system more alkaline. It has made a definite difference in the pustule break outs - down about 80-90%. I still experience some redness but nothing I can't live with. I also go to a tanning salon during the Winter before I go to Florida. I'm not sure whether this has been a factor, but I don't think so. I have completely stopped using all the drugs that the dermatologist prescribed as the borax/peroxide/TT oil has worked better than any of those! I have been doing this for approx. 8 weeks so I am feeling confident that the results are for real.


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Posted by Janice (Utrecht, Netherlands) on 01/15/2010

Hello Ted,

I am using the borax/peroxide remedie for my rosacea skin (I heard baking soda and peroxide works wonders too). But I am afraid it will harm my skin on the long run or worse, it will be unhealthy on the long run?

I also get a headache systematically after the lemon baking soda remedy. What can be the cause of that?

Thank you very much.
Janice


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Posted by Miel (Brooklyn, Ny) on 12/24/2009
★★★☆☆

BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS

Rosacea - Ted's Remedies

I had a post here earlier on how Hydrogen Peroxide (HP), tea tree oil and drinking baking soda worked for me. It did and then i stopped drinking the baking soda (instead i drank Apple Cider Vinegar) and then stopped washing my face with HP. after i stupidly changed my routine my rosacea came back with a vengeance right when the temperature dropped!

so that's my fault. before i used to wash my face with diluted tea tree and HP (i just eyeball the measurements... maybe 1 tsp tea tree and 2 or more table spoons of HP in 10 cups of water) and then stopped.

after that huge breakout, i tried Ted's remedy of saturated borax, HP, drinking borax and baking soda. over the weekend it was horrible. its now thursday and my skin is again normal! it would have cleared up earlier also i think since the first few batches i did of saturated borax i put toooooo much HP which burned my skin!! and i think by monday/tuesday the redness might have been more because of the burn. i wish someone had mentioned not to put too much HP (i tend to overdose i suppose) lol. but yes, the remedy worked. if its in the correct prescribed measurements, the borax does not sting at all. my bed is just real sandy now since i slept with the borax on my face.

my plan now is to keep putting it on at night, drink HP. I also drink ACV for my insomnia and general health.

Replied by Tahiti
(Monroeville, Pa, united states of america)
12/24/2009

Hi Miel. I did the same thing. I used borax and hydrogen peroxide in my bath water. I stayed in the tub too long and burned my skin. It took a while to heal, but I learned a valuable lesson. It's better to use the correct portions than to use too much and cause yourself harm.

Replied by Robert Henry
(Ten Mile, Tn Usa)
12/24/2009

Rosacea, if all will research the net, you will find that it was a Chinese army doctor who first identified the culprit to be the Demodex mite. This was during the Korean War. So I question any Johnny come lately, which includes Ted. After fighting this bugger unsuccessfully for 15 years with Dermatologists, I now treat it myself as I have posted before.

I now think you never cure yourself. You just have to control them. I have found that Tee Tree Oil is the compound which best controls the situation. It is critical that you apply your concoction inside your nose because there is where your hair follicles are. I use hydrogen peroxide, vitamin e oil, tee tree oil and borax. I wash my hair with a coal tar shampoo and rinse with a saturated solution of Borax. All these things are anti-fungals.

The statement that only hydrogen peroxide and borax will cure dog mange is laughable. My dad cured my dogs in the 40's with sulfur, old motor oil and boric acid. I know the site owners get perturbed with me because of my challenges. My response is that if you can't stand the heat, then don't go in the kitchen. Readers won't understand this remark, but they do.

Regardless, this is a great site , just question what you read. There are a lot of posters with unique knowledge like Ted and Joyce, but I find holes sometimes in what they say. Caveat Emptor. I also think lots of posters get tunnel vision with the treating symptoms. Go after your total health first. Then the symptoms will sometimes go away.

If this spiel comes out bad, just blame it on an old man's rumblings.

Replied by Jules
(New York, Brooklyn)
12/25/2009

Go after your total health first."

I think this is wise advice, Robert. I am beginning to think that rosacea is a symptom of sub-par health. Consequently, when one's health improves, so should one's rosacea. When i refer to health, i mean internal health. That said, i think it is still advantageous to apply gels/creams/ointments to one's face. A lot of evidence points to the cause of rosacea as a deficiency of vitamin b2 (riboflavin) and sulfur (MSM), two things which i have been supplementing my diet with as of late. While the literature suggests that these are not an immediate cure, they seem to work overtime and tackle the root of the problem, which should be the goal, that is, eliminating the cause.

Another thing which i suspect may provoke rosacea is mercury amalgams, as they could release too much mercury into one's body. I have not read too much from people in terms of whether removing mercury amalgams had any positive impact on their rosacea, though i am very interested in finding out.

Replied by Joyce
(Joelton, Tn.)
12/25/2009
495 posts

Hello All,

Thought you might be interested in alternative Dr. Jonathan Wright's theory that when you develop a skin problem, look to your gut (gastrointestinal tract). When you also look at the opinion that 75% or more of our immune system's work is done in the intestines, this could very well be right. Also all the EC'ers who report that taking ACV relieves acid regurg or GERD, adds to this, because his theory is that acid regurg is caused not by an excess of hydrocholoric acid but to a deficiency of it.

I also remember reading that the purpose of our pets licking their wounds is that the passage of the pathogens through their GI tracts is what forms the antibodies against the pathogens, which would seem to enforce the theory of much of the immune system function is performed in our intestines.

Replied by Phil
(Dearing, Ga)
12/26/2009

Hi Joyce. I would be very interested in reading Dr. Johnathan article on GUT FLORA...I googled and serveral articles came up. I was wondering if you have a link or a source.

I kinda know, like to take probotics and digestive enzymes, but would love to read the article you are refering to.

This is a first, as for me hearing about Dr. Johnathan Wright, I also have been watching Dr. Richard Becker on TV and find his show informative and I know you have mentioned Dr. Linus Pauling. I searced for Dr. Pauling and came to a website, and I think they wanted you to join or something sign up maybe...I perfer to just click on, like we do here and read...

Thanks in advanced, Joyce!

Hello Robert Henry... I know what you mean about different approaches that different healers have, for instance I see alot on here about SOY and SOY LETHICIN and I have found several articles other places that condem the use of SOY PRODUCTS... It seems that Natural healers agree to disagree on many things. I know Dr Andrew W. Saul recomends very high doses of Niacin for depression, not Nicimade and I have read that Niacin is absolutly terriable for the liver. I know you, yourself have said you eat know animal organs and Ted and Robert Von Sarbacher recommend Beef Liver for certain things....It does get confusing at times. Always something different from different healers.

Replied by Miel
(Brooklyn, Ny)
12/27/2009
★★★★★

hi tahiti! definitely! that incorrect mixture was so painful on my face and i thought that was normal. i was almost in tears. absolutely my fault and not Ted!

update on my skin - skin is all clear of rosacea! its unbelievable how i did not discover this last winter. my rosacea typically occurs during winter. i stopped using the borax for the moment but i'm thinking of doing it every other day.

Replied by Ellenf
(Leander, Tx)
03/25/2012

Hello All, I realize I'm very late to respond to this thread, but as I was reading here, something occurred to me. If dogs gain immunity by ingesting bacteria, if you can gain immunity to allergens by eating local honey, and babies acquire immunity by drinking mother's milk, do you think one could gain immunity to Rosacea by swallowing small, skin scrapings from their infected area?

I've also been reading up on mites a bit and have learned that like most creatures they love the quick energy that sugar provides. I'm going to try making a sugar, borax and water solution as a mask on my face to see if they will come running for the sugar and eat the borax in the process. Same idea as killing ants and spiders with a bowl of sugar and borax... Just on your face. I know both ideas are kind of gross, but I'm going to try them. I'll check back and let you know how it goes.


Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Christine (Grimsby, Ontario, Canada) on 10/09/2009

I have a question for Ted? What do you mean by saturated solution of 1% hydrogen peroxide and borax? When I put any amount of borax in the hydrogen peroxide it does not dissolve but gets hard. Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks! I have been using this only on my face for about a week and I notice my nose is less red. I am wondering if it makes sense to take borax with apple cider vinegar as one is an acid and the other a base. Wouldn't they neutralize each other out?

Replied by Tricia
(Ireland)
10/09/2009
84 posts

A staurated borax is when the borax dissolves completely. Start with about 1/2 teaspoon borax to 1 tablespoon hp. Then start to add 1 tsp hp at a time till the borax dissappears while you are stirring it. You will still feel the slight grating of the borax on your skin even though you won't be able to see it. Using a drop of tea tree oil or neem oil should speed up the processs. The mites don't like either and the neem oil helps reduce reproduction of them.

Replied by Debra
(Adairville, Ky)
10/09/2009

Where can I get the borax and what is the recipe and dosage for fibro? thanks

Replied by Charlie
(Galway, Ireland)
10/24/2009

Hi Tricia from Ireland,

Where is the best place to get borax and HP from over the counter in Ireland, I have Rosacea mostly over my face and area and would be very interested to try the mix suggested in this forum.

Replied by Tricia
(Ireland)
10/26/2009
84 posts

Hi, Charlie, Your local chemist supplies both. They are kept behind the counter so you have to ask for them. The hydrogen peroxide seems to be only availablle(or I can only get it so far) in 6% vol so I have to use mineral or ditilled water in the mix. Borax is also gotten from the chemist but not always so easily available but they should be able to order it for you. Some may ask what you want it for. I personally didn't want to explain in a shop full of people what I wanted it for so I said it was for making a homemade washing powder with washing soda. Yor can explain away the peroxide by saying it is for cleaning purposes. It can be used for cleaning counter tops or as a bleach would etc.
The brand I used is Ricesteele in Tallaght for both. Borax was only available from these and I rang the company in Dublin and checked that it is pure borax with nothing added. They said it is. I checked their peroxide for stabilisers as per Teds instructions (HP:Water 1:9 and leave on a windowsill in sunshine to look for yellow colour......waited 5 days for sunshine) and it stayed clear.

I'm afraid you will only be able to get small quantities. 100g of borax and 250ml hp.

If you ever find it in larger quantities please let me know where as I hate buying on the internet and believe in buying local anyway.



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